The Clan Lord Sentinel

The Kyuem on top of Lugubrion's keep is not working correctly.

Despite efforts by LEG to plant a Kyuem, and feed it multiple (read: around 15) ethercles and even activating the Kyuem for a time, it is now, once again, dull.

The Kyuem does not behave like the other Kyuems post-activation. Feeding it an Ethercle does not open a portal to EP, as did the incursion Kyuems. Nor does it remain active to do some sort of stabilization.

Instead, it reset to it's post-planting and pre-activation state of being Dull.

I simply cannot accept this as being the intended behavior. After hours and hours of work by Lugubrion Exploration Group and Purple Haze, I am appalled that such a bug could ruin our last chance at wrapping this up once and for all.

My understanding is that you can't plant a kyuem wherever you want and expect it to work. The incursions happened in naturally weak points in the fabric between the planes — one per sphere. Did you have reason to believe that the place in Lugubrion's Keep was a similar spot?

Also, the initial activation of the incursion kyuems involved a flow of ethereal energy into the kyuems. Remember those white bolts? Did you have those?

A Sarir instructed us to place one at the location we did and we also had a full mystic and apprentice mystic checking the location as well as other points throughout the Keep as we progressed. I cannot answer the other questions though.

A Kyeum is not a light switch. It takes time to "boot up" the first time like the first time you log into a Windows machine: it takes a year but it gets done eventually. Ya gotta realize that it takes some time to sync up the planes so they'll be this "weak point" inbetween them.

Torin wrote:My understanding is that you can't plant a kyuem wherever you want and expect it to work. The incursions happened in naturally weak points in the fabric between the planes — one per sphere. Did you have reason to believe that the place in Lugubrion's Keep was a similar spot?

Yes. Ethereal readings in the place in Lugubrions were the same as they were in the spot one would plant a Kyuem for an Incursion.

Also, your assessment of "one per sphere" is incorrect. EP3 and EP7 has two Kyuems linked to it, EP1 has none.

Torin wrote:Also, the initial activation of the incursion kyuems involved a flow of ethereal energy into the kyuems. Remember those white bolts? Did you have those?

We used Ethercles. The Kyuem became fully powered.

noivad wrote:A Kyeum is not a light switch. It takes time to "boot up" the first time like the first time you log into a Windows machine: it takes a year but it gets done eventually. Ya gotta realize that it takes some time to sync up the planes so they'll be this "weak point" inbetween them.

I hope your right.

noivad wrote:A Kyeum is not a light switch. It takes time to "boot up" the first time like the first time you log into a Windows machine: it takes a year but it gets done eventually. Ya gotta realize that it takes some time to sync up the planes so they'll be this "weak point" inbetween them.

Would be nice to get some GM confirmation that everything is proceeding as normal. I know I was asked to "donate" ethercles. But there is no reason to feed a kyuem 55 ethercles with no idea if there is a bug, or if there is a finite number needed.

Is it possible that Lugubrion caught wind of it and made adjustments? He did frown on the idea of a Kyuem in his Keep did he not?

Lorikeet wrote:Would be nice to get some GM confirmation that everything is proceeding as normal. I know I was asked to "donate" ethercles. But there is no reason to feed a kyuem 55 ethercles with no idea if there is a bug, or if there is a finite number needed.

Agreed.

I just fed 7 more to it, and nothing happened. Looks like the script is out of sync to me.

$*@#&

If the GM involved has questions, I'd be very happy to calmly explain the situation. But if that doesn't happen soon, I'm going to go Ape Shit Crazy.

Fogtripper wrote:Is it possible that Lugubrion caught wind of it and made adjustments? He did frown on the idea of a Kyuem in his Keep did he not?

If that were the case, I'd expect the failure to have been much more spectacular. And Lugubrion knew nothing about our attempts to plant a Kyuem in his keep.

Phroon wrote:Yes. Ethereal readings in the place in Lugubrions were the same as they were in the spot one would plant a Kyuem for an Incursion.

The mystics' readings gave them a date for the pending incursions. Did the thoom mystics get a date for an upcoming incursion? If incursions aren't happening there, the spot isn't the same as the incursion spots.

I don't know how exactly the mystics' readings work. However, my experience during the incursions tells me that those places were really active. At the climax, multiple portals would open spontaneously. I am guessing that there is a big difference between (1) stabilizing an unstable area that spontaneously produces rips in the fabric of the planes and (2) trying to create a rip in a place where rips are not spontaneously occurring and never have.

If a sarir was helping place the kyuem, then there was GM involvement in the storyline. The point is that when you do everything you think you are supposed to, and there are no more GM hints from the sarir (This kyuem will take a lot of energy; Lugubrion's keep has special protections--the kyuem need at least 100 ethercles for power!) then it seems like another crumbling lid.

Torin wrote:

Phroon wrote:Yes. Ethereal readings in the place in Lugubrions were the same as they were in the spot one would plant a Kyuem for an Incursion.

The mystics' readings gave them a date for the pending incursions. Did the thoom mystics get a date for an upcoming incursion? If incursions aren't happening there, the spot isn't the same as the incursion spots.

I don't know how exactly the mystics' readings work.

During the incursions, at the spot where a Kyuem was plantable, mystics felt ethereal seepage. The entire snell on the top of Lugubrion's keep had this seepage. During the incursions, a mystic couldn't even plant a Kyuem until the Incursion started. Drablak could plant one in Lugu's at any time.

Torin wrote:However, my experience during the incursions tells me that those places were really active. At the climax, multiple portals would open spontaneously. I am guessing that there is a big difference between (1) stabilizing an unstable area that spontaneously produces rips in the fabric of the planes and (2) trying to create a rip in a place where rips are not spontaneously occurring and never have.

I'm not surprised that it behaved differently. I'm surprised it didn't do anything other than glow and then reverted back to it's initial state. I expected a portal, an earth quake, something! I'd be fine if it remained active, or did something to indicate that feeding it ethercles did something other than a light show, but as far as I can tell, nothing happened.

I know it's different, but I don't want to have to make another Kyuem when we tried everything to get this one to work after it was active: EPS Portals, Tethered Portals, everything. It simply did not work.

Drablak sensed that the Kyuem was connected to a snell in EP, maybe something happened there. *hopes*

Torin wrote:trying to create a rip in a place where rips are not spontaneously occurring and never have.

I'm not so sure about that. Lugubrion experienced some sort of Ethereal Invasion/Incursion the first time I saw his keep. There is definitely a weakness where we planted the Kyuem. Not enough to cause a reoccurring incursion, but something that we should be able to stabilize into a Kyuem-pair bridge. The Ethercles should have done this. But even after the Kyuem was activated portals opened near it weren't routed to the EP snell the Kyuem was connected to.

Lorikeet wrote:If a sarir was helping place the kyuem, then there was GM involvement in the storyline. The point is that when you do everything you think you are supposed to, and there are no more GM hints from the sarir (This kyuem will take a lot of energy; Lugubrion's keep has special protections--the kyuem need at least 100 ethercles for power!) then it seems like another crumbling lid.

Or it's a bug and the scripts malfunctioned.

Forgive me for interjecting, but wasn't there some question of whether the sarirs should be trusted?

Phroon wrote:Drablak sensed that the Kyuem was connected to a snell in EP, maybe something happened there. *hopes*

I will hope for this as well.

Phroon wrote:EP3 and EP7 has two Kyuems linked to it, EP1 has none.

Unreleated to the original topic.. EP1 has 7 active Kyuems in it by my count (13 if you count the ones inside the tower... While they do give permanent portals rather than temporary ones they still function in the same manner which suggests that there might be a limit of 1 Kyuem per sector but definitely not 1 per Sphere.