The Clan Lord Sentinel

For a bit of fun, here's a (basic) searchable list of all known Exiles:
https://ranktracker.squib.co.nz/allexiles

Warning.. it's quite big (1-2MB)

I officially name you head of the PIA, Puddleby Intelligence Agency.

Pretty neat way to check who is getting the most ranks from clan exp. Silky in the lead with 72?

It could be more, this is only a subset of All Exiles

Icy wrote:Pretty neat way to check who is getting the most ranks from clan exp. Silky in the lead with 72?

Only for people like Silky and Mujin who are single-player clans... I watched someone in Open Hands pull out literally 101 alts (like actually 101, I counted in text logs) late at night one time. Many of his alts aren't on this list, I checked a handful — I guess they're out so briefly and so rarely that they don't appear on the status feed and they're not scrubbed into this dataset. Actually, how do you get the character clothing info, Squib?

The info is included in the data from the status website. That's how the Clanning application gets the clothing information also.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... These kinds of lists, and the information you can infer from their existence/creation, shouldn't exist. I've never once seen a valid reason for them or their use. Nor have I ever seen an explanation of how they enrich people's enjoyment of the game. This kind of stuff reminds me of years ago when certain people, who ran CL related websites, were collecting information on their users (like say alt names) and then abusing or releasing that information to the detriment of the players (namely players who the administers had problems with).

But you CANT be a mystic if you regularly play another class. It's like against the RULES!

Keep up the good work!

Mac wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again... These kinds of lists, and the information you can infer from their existence/creation, shouldn't exist. I've never once seen a valid reason for them or their use. Nor have I ever seen an explanation of how they enrich people's enjoyment of the game. This kind of stuff reminds me of years ago when certain people, who ran CL related websites, were collecting information on their users (like say alt names) and then abusing or releasing that information to the detriment of the players (namely players who the administers had problems with).

Eh... if this list took out the clan names, then there would really be zero relevant information here except to say "this character has been logged on for at least 5 minutes at least once since the time since Squib started collecting the XML feed", which IMO is interesting/useful. I saw a lot of names that I thought had quit, but probably our OOC times just never intersect. Worf's list—which I guess you're referring to—also included clanning times (both count of time and specific date).

Even the clan information is really only determining to what extent people abuse clan EXP, but even then only for mono-clicker clans where you can determine who the "real" character is. I don't think you could figure out from this list who's benefitting from alts the most in Maximum Rankage or Open Hands since there are too many real players in both clans. (Oddly, Mujin seems to have dropped out of her Christmas Tree clan, on that note.)

First of all, this was merely an aside from something I wanted to do for the Rank Tracker (which was to give the player a visual of their character when they login). This is working well I hope, and it doesn't require me to collect login times or whatever else is theoretically possible to record.

To address your comments Mac, I don't want to cause angst or problems in anyway and I agree generally with what you have said. I thought of it more like a hall of fame, membership list, or a semi-interesting view on who's been around. Showing up this practice of using clan exp in this way was unintended and I apologise for that.
I don't think there was anything surprising here - if some of the posts on the Sentinel are anything to go by. Even so, it's not my intent to expose anything or anyone.

Org du Lac wrote:(Oddly, Mujin seems to have dropped out of her Christmas Tree clan, on that note.)

I imagine its like turning on too many cheat modes. After awhile it stops being fun to play when you can instagib hordes and get nothing new from it.

thesquib wrote:First of all, this was merely an aside from something I wanted to do for the Rank Tracker (which was to give the player a visual of their character when they login). This is working well I hope, and it doesn't require me to collect login times or whatever else is theoretically possible to record.

To address your comments Mac, I don't want to cause angst or problems in anyway and I agree generally with what you have said. I thought of it more like a hall of fame, membership list, or a semi-interesting view on who's been around. Showing up this practice of using clan exp in this way was unintended and I apologise for that.
I don't think there was anything surprising here - if some of the posts on the Sentinel are anything to go by. Even so, it's not my intent to expose anything or anyone.

Sorry, I wasn't intending to imply that you were going to do the things listed, only that I've seen people abuse this type of information in the past and that I see zero positives (game play enriching) benefits to tracking/sharing the information. Icy and Org are kinda making my point for me by bagging on Mujin, who has helped countless exiles gain thousands of ranks over many years of game play (for no reason other than possibly jealousy).

Even the one example that Org mentioned, knowing that someone he thought quit still plays, is undercut by Org himself when he says they must never be around when they are (which in CL means, they might as well not play). Nevermind, that there is no indication that they've done anything more than log in one time. No way of knowing if it's even still the same person. So knowing that X person logged in isn't actually a benefit.

Stora does this aswell.

There's no compulsory monthly fees, so instead of paying those you could pay for a character every month instead. If you did that since 2009, that would be around 96 characters. Maybe that's what some people have done? <shrug>